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Link to this post | posted 14 Apr, 2021 20:54 | |
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viknesh It actually did turn out to be a fun, unscripted, sleuthing exercise! Kyle
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Kyle MacLea Associate Professor, University of New Hampshire at Manchester kyle.maclea@unh.edu +1 603-641-4129 |
Link to this post | posted 14 Apr, 2021 19:14 | |
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I wanted to send an update that we have conclusively proven the source of our contamination giving us so many problems. The agar we were using to make the top agar appears to have been contaminated with something that could survive 40 minutes of autoclaving (volume 500 ml). Now that we have switched out the agar, our contamination issues have gone away completely. Just an update for anyone following the thread. Kyle
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Kyle MacLea Associate Professor, University of New Hampshire at Manchester kyle.maclea@unh.edu +1 603-641-4129 |
Link to this post | posted 06 Apr, 2021 03:46 | |
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And further work by the students shows some changing contamination. Some long rods, some shorter rods, and even dominance by cocci. Given that some of our top agar is contaminated after the autoclave with NO ingredients added after autoclave and with the bottle being never opened, it would seem to suggest some problem with our autoclave? Perhaps among other problems. Kyle
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Kyle MacLea Associate Professor, University of New Hampshire at Manchester kyle.maclea@unh.edu +1 603-641-4129 |
Link to this post | posted 05 Apr, 2021 17:44 | |
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Just confirmed that all three cloudy bottles in that picture were indeed contaminated as shown by methylene blue simple staining. Only the broth bottle on the left in that picture is uncontaminated. Kyle
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Kyle MacLea Associate Professor, University of New Hampshire at Manchester kyle.maclea@unh.edu +1 603-641-4129 |
Link to this post | posted 05 Apr, 2021 17:39 | |
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Vic We confirmed we are using the Whatman GD/X filters as well. We also confirmed that two of the three bottles of contaminated agar (TSA top agar, and PYCa top agar) were tested by simple staining and shown to contain bacteria. The third could be done as well, but had not been done. Kyle
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Kyle MacLea Associate Professor, University of New Hampshire at Manchester kyle.maclea@unh.edu +1 603-641-4129 |
Link to this post | posted 03 Apr, 2021 16:10 | |
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So here's an update. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1294ZwYilXMbQA6n0eFrWouodmvBk1M4ZOL4AsPiUsX8/ The contaminated bottle with the long chains is from the small bottle of top agar that was made with dextrose and CaCl2 added before autoclaving and NO opening or placement in a water bath. To quote the student assistant: "Ok so that smaller bottle is the pyca top agar that i made with the exact same recipe as the protocol EXCEPT i added the dextrose and calcium chloride before autoclaving. I autoclaved for 45 minutes, closed it immediately and placed it in the 55C bead bath (AND i handled it with fresh gloves on) It had absolutely NO contact with any water and was not opened, even in the hood, after autoclaving." So, that suggests to me that even 45 minutes in the autoclave is not killing what's in there?? Kyle
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Kyle MacLea Associate Professor, University of New Hampshire at Manchester kyle.maclea@unh.edu +1 603-641-4129 |
Link to this post | posted 03 Apr, 2021 03:51 | |
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Dear Vic, So, for #1: We have been having this problem with both hosts. The last time we tried a control, and previous phages we isolated against A. globiformis, none of them worked. But we have at various times this semester gotten plenty of plaques on direct isolations, failed on enriched isolations, gotten through multiple rounds of purifications on some phages, and then had them stop propagating. For #2: We're performing this exact experiment right now: Freshly autoclaved top agar is now sitting in the bead bath and we should know more soon. We tested the autoclave this week using biological indicators and it passes. Others making media for other classes without antibiotics do not seem to be getting substantial contamination. While the PYCa top agar has been the main contaminated piece (gram positive rods), the PYCa broth has been contaminated a couple of times. We remade all ingredients including new dextrose and CaCl2 with new filter sterilization and were extremely careful with adding these components in the hood but it was still, and very quickly, contaminated. Some of the PYCa broth from this has been contaminated, and some not. We also tried making the media with the dextrose/CaCl2/CHX in the media all together through the autoclave and it still became contaminated. Walking through our process it seemed like a possible explanation could be that the students were in taking the media/agar out of the autoclave were putting the bottles in a water bath to cool down before use, with the caps loosened. Could there be something getting into the threads of the bottle caps during this process, some water splash up? So today we set up some freshly autoclaved bottles and put them directly into the beadbath without this step. We should know more early next week. We are trying to get through these steps before we revisit the plaquing problem–it seemed like contamination could be a prime contributor to this issue. At one point before we started having substantial problems, we did have a plate with clearly visible plaques that nonetheless appears to also be covered with a layer of bacteria, which suggested to us the presence of two different bacteria, only one of which was a host. Kyle
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Kyle MacLea Associate Professor, University of New Hampshire at Manchester kyle.maclea@unh.edu +1 603-641-4129 |
Link to this post | posted 31 Mar, 2021 02:55 | |
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So, this is going to sound insane, but we've been running into recurrent bacterial contamination that a couple of attempts to fix doesn't seem to be fixing. We are trying to use both A. globiformis and M. foliorum for phage discovery. We had a lot of luck getting plaques originally, then at some point most of our students' phages have been unable to propagate further (no plaques). We've done countless direct and enriched isolations. A few weeks ago we had a contamination issue and re-made components. Things got better for a time, but then we were back in problems again. Last week there was obvious rampant contamination again. We received new glycerol stocks for bacteria, remade all the PYCa, all the top agar, all the dextrose, CaCl2, and CHX. The last three were sterile filtered, the first two were autoclaved. Autoclaving was standardly done with 500 ml at a time and 45 minute autoclaving at 121C. By all indications, other media being made using the same autoclave is just fine although no biological testing of the autoclave has been done recently. Most recent tests seem to indicate it is the top agar in which we are seeing contamination. Even in freshly made top agar, freshly autoclaved, with the other components all sterile filtered in the hood. Attention being paid to sterile technique during the handling, in the hood. What could be making our top agar contaminated? We have been using a metal bead bath for incubation of the top agar, but we are seeing this even in freshly made top agar. Beads in the bead bath have also been recently decontaminated. Ideas of any kind would be most definitely welcomed! Kyle
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Kyle MacLea Associate Professor, University of New Hampshire at Manchester kyle.maclea@unh.edu +1 603-641-4129 |
Link to this post | posted 26 Mar, 2021 16:55 | |
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Perfect! And I have even used the head command before. THANK YOU! Kyle
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Kyle MacLea Associate Professor, University of New Hampshire at Manchester kyle.maclea@unh.edu +1 603-641-4129 |
Link to this post | posted 26 Mar, 2021 02:51 | |
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DanRussell So apparently the data files we have are too large (the fastq.gz files are 4.2-4.5 GB each) so we can't upload to the virtual machine. Is there a way to downsample them ourselves prior to upload? I have the data on another linux based server already, so if the software to downsample were available there, perhaps I could do the downsampling before then trying to upload to the virtual machine. Or, alternatively, is there another way we can transfer the data onto the VM so the size issue is not a problem? Although I figure such huge files are not probably something you want on there, but maybe not? Kyle
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Kyle MacLea Associate Professor, University of New Hampshire at Manchester kyle.maclea@unh.edu +1 603-641-4129 |